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		<title>IAmA Gay (Ex)Mormon</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I saw this on the request list for IAmA. I&#8217;m not really sure what to explain about the situation. I was raised LDS until I was 18 and my family was trying to convince me to go on a mission. I simply couldn&#8217;t keep a clean conscience about being gay and continuing further down the [...]]]></description>
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<p>I saw this on the request  list for IAmA.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not really sure what to explain about the situation. I was raised  LDS until I was 18 and my family was trying to convince me to go on a  mission. I simply couldn&#8217;t keep a clean conscience about being gay and  continuing further down the LDS path.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not particularly good at predicting what people want to know, so  ask some questions, and I will be sure to answer them as well as update  the relevant information up here.</p>
<p>EDIT: I&#8217;m including up here some of the important specifics so people  don&#8217;t have to jog around the entire comments just to get a gist of the  situation.</p>
<hr />I grew up in South-Eastern Idaho; Idaho Falls, ID specifically.  Mostly people think that communities that are mostly Mormon exist only  in Utah. However, over half the population of my city is LDS. It&#8217;s even  more when you take the subdivision I was raised in. My subdivision alone  was about 90% LDS.<span id="more-2654"></span></p>
<p>The reason I decided to come out was after my choir teacher cornered  me and said, &#8220;You need to watch this movie.&#8221; The movie was called Latter  Days. <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0345551/synopsis">Go Here</a> for a full synopsis. Watching that movie was like watching my future  life through a Crystal Ball. And I didn&#8217;t want my life to be like that.  The movie was creepy accurate. My mom looks and sounds just like the  mother in the movie. And my dad was a Bishop.</p>
<p>I stopped going to church one month before I turned 18. Then came out  on my 18th Birthday&#8230; right after high school graduation. I was never  openly gay in the church. A member of the Quorum of the 70 lived across  the street from me at the time. And while I was never openly gay in the  church, he and I have had some choice words with each other.</p>
<p>I was outed to my family a couple of days before I was going to tell  them myself. I was outed by someone who heard it through the grapevine,  as happens in small communities.</p>
<p>They didn&#8217;t react very well. They told me I had two weeks to move out  of the house. They took away the car they were going to give me for  graduation. They told me not to expect any support through college. So, I bought a car for $500 and moved to Logan, UT for a couple months.  Then moved across the country to PA for school. After living on the  other side of the country, they realized that they could either have a  Gay son, or no son at all.</p>
<p>They don&#8217;t guilt trip me anymore. Things got really nasty during prop  8 in California. I wrote several letters to the editor of publications  in the area outlining exactly how I felt about the LDS church requiring  its members to donate and help with prop 8. I wrote a letter against  Prop 8 and sent it to every Mormon person I knew. Many of them refuse to  talk to me now&#8230; Things got really nasty.</p>
<p>My family knows now not to broach the subject else they get a leftist  commie lecture about self expression and human rights.</p>
<hr />Some interesting stories:</p>
<p>Because it&#8217;s a small city, everyone know&#8217;s about me coming out&#8230; As a  result, people assume that my family MUST be ok with it&#8230; which they  are NOT in any sense of the way. However, because of this assumption, my  mom has become a sort of &#8220;fruit fly.&#8221; If you will. Random people will  corner my mom and come out to her in awkward situations. At the store&#8230;  at work&#8230; Even my mom&#8217;s doctor cornered her during a scheduled  doctor&#8217;s appointment and came out to her&#8230; Every time it happens, she&#8217;s  not very good at handling it&#8230; usually she runs away.</p>
<p>When I first left Idaho, I moved to Logan, UT and attended Utah State  for a semester. I thought it would be more accepting and tolerant&#8230;  little did I know that the only place it was MORE accepting and tolerant  than was BYU. I was one of 10 or so openly gay people on a campus of  over 20,000. While I didn&#8217;t experience any active discrimination, there  was a lot of passive agressive things&#8230; Random notes calling me a fag  under my door&#8230; And then I figured out that most of it was coming from  the closet cases. They would admit to slipping notes under my door and  then ask if I wanted to sleep with them&#8230; and of those I did date, they  would immediately ask if I wanted to go to church with them&#8230; I had to  get out of there as fast as I could!</p>
<hr />There are a few questions about how I was &#8220;outed&#8221;, so I will describe  it in detail here:</p>
<p>The first person I came out to was my best friend in high school. She  was a hippy who was raised in Oregon. The second person I came out to  was my choir teacher. She lived in San Francisco all her life before  moving to Idaho to teach choir&#8230; need I say more?</p>
<p>My choir teacher is the one who gave me the movie &#8220;Latter Days&#8221; and  told me to watch it. Which I did. I indicated to her that I wanted to  come out, and she put me in touch with several people in Idaho Falls who  also grew up Mormon and decided to come out.</p>
<p>One of these guys has a big party at his house during the 4th of  July. And the 4th of July is THE biggest holiday in Idaho Falls. Come  see the fireworks&#8230; they will blow your mind! (And I say this even  after seeing NYC and DC for the 4th of July) Anyway! His house is right  along the parade route and he invites all his friends over for his  party. Well, unknown to me, this guy&#8217;s niece was dating my brother&#8217;s  friend. And the niece always comes to her uncle&#8217;s party. Well, she  brought along my brother&#8217;s friend and I was caught off guard holding  hands with a guy I was dating at the time.</p>
<p>We made eye contact and I immediately knew I had to go into damage  control. I took my brother&#8217;s friend out back and explained to him the  situation. I wasn&#8217;t out to my family yet, just to a couple of friends.  He said he understood, and I left it at that. Later that day, I was off  with the guy I was seeing at the time while my brother&#8217;s friend was  attending a picnic my family holds every 4th of July for friends and  family. He took it upon himself to tell my family that I was gay and saw  me at a gay party earlier that day.</p>
<p>The day after that is when the shit hit the fan and my parents told  me to move out.</p>
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		<title>My husband wants more then me&#8230;  &#8211; Jennie Married a Bisexual/Gay Husband</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Help Jennie to figure out what to do next! &#8220;Me and my husband have been married for 2 years. Before we got married he asked if i would every have a three-some cause he thinks it&#8217;ll be really sexy to see me with another man. I had told him that i don&#8217;t swing that way [...]]]></description>
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<p><a rel="attachment wp-att-2240" href="http://www.thisisqueer.com/my-husband-wants-more-then-me-help-jennie-about-her-bisexualgay-husband/bisexual-gay-husband/"><img class="size-full wp-image-2240 alignleft" title="bisexual-gay-husband" src="http://www.thisisqueer.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/bisexual-gay-husband.jpg" alt="bisexual-gay-husband" width="160" height="240" /></a>&#8220;Me and my husband have been married for 2 years. Before we got married  he asked if i would every have a <em><strong>three-some </strong></em>cause he thinks it&#8217;ll be  really sexy to see me <em><strong>with another man</strong></em>. I had told him that i don&#8217;t  swing that way and he was ok with it. Lately he has been brining it up  again, and i refuse to do it. I am very uncomfortable with the idea. He  says that there is the void he has to fill if i don&#8217;t have sex with  another man for him. He has only told me he&#8217;ll start going out drinking  or going out to the titty-bar to fill this &#8220;void&#8221; but doesn&#8217;t know it  that will fullfill him or not. I am afraid this is going to really come  between out relationship if he goes out to fill the &#8220;void&#8221;. In fact, he  might have more of a &#8220;void&#8221; if he does something to hurt me so bad cause  he&#8217;ll lose me and his son. How do i handle this? How do i apprach him  about this?&#8221;</p>
<p>-Jennie</p>
<p><strong>One reply from a internet surfer</strong></p>
<p>There are some men that want their wife/woman to have a menage a trois with another woman. But if your husband wants to have a threesome with another man, he&#8217;s definetely got some <em><strong>bi sexual/gay</strong></em> tendencies going on. And unfortunately that will probably never go away. Because straight men don&#8217;t fantasize about having a threesome with another man. Period! So, to get to the point, you have a problem on your hands, to say the least. You said that you are uncomfortable with the idea and you refuse to do it and he has threaten to go out and fill this &#8220;void&#8221; by drinking or going to a titty bar, which shows that his urge is strong and he is being inconsiderate of how you feel about this and how his actions will affect your marriage. You have to put your foot down and be firm with him that you will not be a part of a threesome with another man. And you must let him know that if he tries to fill that &#8220;void&#8221; in other ways, it will hurt your marriage. If he really loves you and want the marriage to work, he will let it all go in order to make his marriage work. But if he still insist on having a threesome with a man, and/or if he keeps telling you that he is going to fill the &#8220;void&#8221; elsewhere; then the writing is on the wall. Your husband is bi sexual or gay, and his urge to be with a man is inevitable. (If he hasn&#8217;t already been with men.) Unless you can live with the fact that your husband is<strong> <em>bi sexual/gay</em></strong>, and eventually will act on those tendencies, with or without you, then you must seriously consider getting out of that marriage before &#8220;all hell breaks loose&#8221;. And if you stay in the marriage, then everything that happens is all on you.</p>
<p><strong><em><a href="http://conversations.blackvoices.com/living-and-loving/332e461ab8cd4017a07830c7d4f15a89/my-husband-wants-mor/87ca5fcc5e924ac888b3903c023be390?&amp;pg=1">Click here</a></em></strong> to leave your advice from a <em><strong>gay&#8217;s point of view</strong></em>.</p>
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